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Devils in the detail - comments on a news article

At the first sight, a deal worth C$225mm, wow, that's a lot of money. Immediately, there is the question" how did they arrive at this number?"

Ok, all the valuation techniques. Fine!

But shouldn't we figure out the most important piece of information first, before we jump into any sort of conclusion?

A Deal worth $$. First of all, what's in this deal? does this deal provide valuation of the asset? or shareholder's equity? Is this deal assuming existing debt that T&T owes to its creditors? Therefore, before anybody jump into valuation techniques of P/S or P/E or whatever those valuation techniques tell us to do. Maybe we should step back a bit and realize that there are some important information missing from this article

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  • T&T sold to Loblaw at C$225M.
    TORONTO (Reuters) - Loblaw Co <L.TO>, Canada's biggest grocery store chain, expanded its multi-cultural offering on Friday with the purchase of Canada's largest Asian food retailer T&T Supermarket, in a deal worth C$225 million.
    T&T Supermarket, which offers a mix of fresh and prepared Asian food, operates 17 stores in British Columbia, Alberta and Ontario and four distribution centers.
    Loblaw said the deal is expected to close by the end of the year, subject to consents and regulatory approvals.
    The company said C$191 million of the purchase price will be funded by cash and the remaining through preferred shares issued by T&T, the value of which will be tied to the future performance of the business.
    It is expected that the acquisition will be add to Loblaw's earnings in the first year following closing.
    The Asian food retailer booked sales of about C$514 million, in the 12 months ending June 30.
    TD Securities Inc acted as financial adviser to T&T on the transaction.
    • As a customer, i don't like the deal. It is questionable if LB can maintain the efficience of the existing T&T supply chain, LB lacks the flexbility and not as nimble as Asian Mgmt style. Op cost of T&T may rise after, and will be passed to consumers...
      • 我们一起去福建人的超市就完了
        • 如果LB不保持T&T原有特色,那它就等着以后继续收购小统华,中统华,老统华吧.
      • Totally agree!
    • I’m not pleased with Loblaw’s move to acquire T&T. I doubt Loblaw will keep T&T as is, but let's hope for the best, at least we may see more T&T locations in GTA.
    • Good, we can use our PC points at T&T now
      • 能积多少分啊
      • +1
    • personally...I don't want to see this happen...
    • That's really a good deal for T&T investors.
      • Sold the company with $540mm rev for $225mm? although i don't know the real CF of T&T, still, that does not sounds like a sweet offer...
        • Exactly! The offer doesn't sound right.
        • The P/Sales ratio for this sector is below 0.4 (see Warlmart is 0.47, Costco is 0.29). If put T&T in the middle, it should worth less than CAD170M.
          • What confuses me: Assume 0.4P/Rev (considering this is 08 date, may under-ested) , farevalue: $216mm. Why T&T sold the firm for only $9mm/4% extra to farevalue? They can
            make this 4% from the coming market recovery. In this case, i feel it is not a good deal.
            However, use 5 times LTM EBITDA for retail/wholesale store deal, assuming sector average margin 4.5%, the farevalue would be $121mm in which case it would then be a good offer. #%$@@?
            Moreover, $190mm out of $225mm is cash, is that a bit heavy? If L is so confident on the growth of share price, why T&T accept the cash rather than stock? Or think it another way, if L is so confident on upword potential of the sector, why T&T osses the patient and wants to sell themselve rather than grow? Do they really want to use the proceeds to recreate other biz or just in a rush of cashing out? anything to do with TW politics? anyway, as long as they keep the price and product variety, i still go there. ^&^
            • P/S of 0.4 is public listed retailers, actually I just pick a relative reference from the market, and did a rough estimate. We have no internal data.
              190M cash is purely short-sighted, I believe there might be something wrong in future growth perspective. These guys take heavy cash must want to get out of the biz ASAP.
        • Hard to judge by just looking at the annual sales. T&T has 17 stores, who knows how many of them are profitable.
    • Short-sighted, money-but-not-business-oriented entrepreneurs. What a regretable deal it is!
    • 对于中国人来讲这不是一个好消息。我以后不去大统华了。
    • I think the board of T&T definitely know those number. Yet they still "undersell" this grocery chain. To me, this only means that they need cash desperately now.
      There are some reasons behind this deal inside T&T. This also reminds me of the SAMS Club's closure couple months ago.
    • Devils in the detail - comments on a news article
      At the first sight, a deal worth C$225mm, wow, that's a lot of money. Immediately, there is the question" how did they arrive at this number?"

      Ok, all the valuation techniques. Fine!

      But shouldn't we figure out the most important piece of information first, before we jump into any sort of conclusion?

      A Deal worth $$. First of all, what's in this deal? does this deal provide valuation of the asset? or shareholder's equity? Is this deal assuming existing debt that T&T owes to its creditors? Therefore, before anybody jump into valuation techniques of P/S or P/E or whatever those valuation techniques tell us to do. Maybe we should step back a bit and realize that there are some important information missing from this article

      Cherios.
      .
      • It's a ballpark figure, my friend. Not valuation analysis.
    • 据说是大统华被LOBLAWS 收购的真正内幕消息!!zt
      朋友很认真的告诉我,他在几个月前就知道大统华快挨不住了,因为陈水扁被收押。陈是大统华的大股东之一,大统华开的店的地全是自己出钱买和店也是自己盖的,陈贪污的钱就留到这里来。其实大统华是有赚钱的,因为台湾的老马派人来海外收钱了,卖掉扁的物业换回¥¥。 还有 美国的 大华 超市 也是扁有份的,也在卖了。。
      • Wow, 原来扁总统家族是股东之一啊。不过,奇怪的是没有华人资本接手,它的生意可是增长的,养鸡生蛋好过杀鸡卖。钱作怪啊!
    • Will T&T's employees be unionized as well?
    • Comments on the deal from CIBC analyst
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛The T&T Acquisition
      Acquiring T&T Supermarkets was a wise move by Loblaw, but now the hard part begins.

      T&T is a relatively upscale Asian supermarket chain, whose newer stores are aimed as much at non-Asians as at Asians. On a sales-per-square foot basis, these are hugely productive units. We believe that Loblaw paid about 8.8x EBITDA and will have about $35 million of synergies (mostly D.C.’s and head offices) over about 24 months, reducing the net multiple to just 3.7x – a great net price.

      By our math, T&T adds about 7-cents per share to Loblaw’s F2010 earnings. We are assuming that Loblaw adds at least two T&T stores in F2010, and then accelerates after that, doubling the network over five years.

      One of the hidden gems of T&T is the commissary operation in Toronto and Vancouver, which produces the tremendous HMR product in T&T stores. On the conference call, Loblaw mentioned that its own HMR business was dismal this year, chalking it up to consumers not being interested in the category right now. We believe that Loblaw’s HMR business could benefit hugely from T&T’s production and programs. Another benefit is T&T’s unique and innovative
      worldwide supplier base, which Loblaw could access for its core conventional and
      discount stores.

      Although the acquisition is an intelligent acknowledgement of Canada’s critical Asian community, there will be two large challenges for Loblaw:

      1, Maintaining the unique culture and character of T&T stores.

      2, Aggressively rolling out new T&T stores without cannibalizing its existing business.

      Exhibit 3. Estimating The Multiple Paid for T&T
      LTM
      # of stores 17
      Sales 514.0
      est EBITDA margin 5.0%
      EBITDA 25.7
      Implied EV/EBITDA 8.8x
      Total synergies 35.0
      EV/EBITDA, post-synergies 3.7x
      Source: Company reports and CIBC World Markets Inc.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • This is from UBS analyst
      We believe Loblaw views T&T as a strategic asset, and hopes to learn more
      about the rapidly growing ethnic food niche.

      Average grocery acquisition multiples range from 7.8x-10.7x, suggesting
      EBITDA of $21-$29 million, and sales of $350 to $480 million.

      We estimate the transaction is accretive by $0.01 to EPS one year after closing.

      Table 2: Historical transaction multiples
      Acquirer Target EV/EBITDA Date
      Empire Company Ltd. Sobeys 7.8x Apr-07
      Metro Inc. A&P Canada 10.7x* Jul-05
      Empire Company Ltd Oshawa Group 8.4x Oct-98
      Loblaw Provigo Group 8.7x Dec-98