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(转贴)<<大家来看看我为什么没有拿到Offer吧>>文章来源: 好小猪 于 2002-12-11 17:12:00: @职场生涯

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛下午郁闷,干脆直接写信问那个Director自己差在什么地方。他人很好,很快给我回了信。我把信贴出来,有的地方涉及我的references的名字,我改了一下。希望大家找工作时注意这些地方,顺利拿到Offer.

Dear 小猪,

Thank you for the kind words. I went through the interview process once before, late last year into early 2002. This resulted in my hiring Wang whom you met. That effort to make an offer was much easier than this time because the candidates (other than Wang) were not as good as this round from my point of view. After your interview, I had 2 more candidates visit. Each one of you was quite qualified to do the job. I do not think there are any specifics I can point to which would help your future interviews. You did a fine job. It came down to what I call a “gut-feeling”. It is something you just can’t describe in words most of the time. It is just something you feel. I know this does not really help you, but I am not really able to put words to the reason for the results.



As far as your future interviews, I would only suggest you continue to be yourself, to know all of your chemistry (which you did), and ask all the questions you feel you need to ask (as you did). There will be a job that is yours out there. It just might take a few interviews for you to find it, or for IT to find you! (It took me 9 interviews to find this one!) Keep a positive outlook on the process. I know you will find something, and I know you will do well wherever you go.



One thing you might suggest to your references is that they seriously take any messages from your interviewers and respond within a reasonable amount of time. I still have not heard anything from Dr.Moore (#this is my advisor.:( I don't think he t put student's things into his heart---xiaozhu), and I only heard from Dr. Youngs yesterday. I understand that he was traveling, and I appreciate that at least he responded when he could. Dr Zhang was very prompt and I really enjoyed speaking with him. Now, the fact that the response rate was slow had NOTHING to do with my decision. However, someone else may use that to strongly influence their decision making. I hope this is clear without sounding bad against Drs. Koser or Espe. That most certainly is not my intent.



I wish you well in your career. As I said, I am sure you will do well wherever you find your job. If I can be of any further help, feel free to contact me. Also, I want to wish you a Happy Holiday as well.



Regards,

其实,看明白了,还是我不够好。:(大家看,我是不是要考虑换references?但是老板不能不用的,虽然他并不关心我们的实验和工作。:(更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 工作学习 / 事业与工作 / (转贴)<<大家来看看我为什么没有拿到Offer吧>>文章来源: 好小猪 于 2002-12-11 17:12:00: @职场生涯
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛下午郁闷,干脆直接写信问那个Director自己差在什么地方。他人很好,很快给我回了信。我把信贴出来,有的地方涉及我的references的名字,我改了一下。希望大家找工作时注意这些地方,顺利拿到Offer.

    Dear 小猪,

    Thank you for the kind words. I went through the interview process once before, late last year into early 2002. This resulted in my hiring Wang whom you met. That effort to make an offer was much easier than this time because the candidates (other than Wang) were not as good as this round from my point of view. After your interview, I had 2 more candidates visit. Each one of you was quite qualified to do the job. I do not think there are any specifics I can point to which would help your future interviews. You did a fine job. It came down to what I call a “gut-feeling”. It is something you just can’t describe in words most of the time. It is just something you feel. I know this does not really help you, but I am not really able to put words to the reason for the results.



    As far as your future interviews, I would only suggest you continue to be yourself, to know all of your chemistry (which you did), and ask all the questions you feel you need to ask (as you did). There will be a job that is yours out there. It just might take a few interviews for you to find it, or for IT to find you! (It took me 9 interviews to find this one!) Keep a positive outlook on the process. I know you will find something, and I know you will do well wherever you go.



    One thing you might suggest to your references is that they seriously take any messages from your interviewers and respond within a reasonable amount of time. I still have not heard anything from Dr.Moore (#this is my advisor.:( I don't think he t put student's things into his heart---xiaozhu), and I only heard from Dr. Youngs yesterday. I understand that he was traveling, and I appreciate that at least he responded when he could. Dr Zhang was very prompt and I really enjoyed speaking with him. Now, the fact that the response rate was slow had NOTHING to do with my decision. However, someone else may use that to strongly influence their decision making. I hope this is clear without sounding bad against Drs. Koser or Espe. That most certainly is not my intent.



    I wish you well in your career. As I said, I am sure you will do well wherever you find your job. If I can be of any further help, feel free to contact me. Also, I want to wish you a Happy Holiday as well.



    Regards,

    其实,看明白了,还是我不够好。:(大家看,我是不是要考虑换references?但是老板不能不用的,虽然他并不关心我们的实验和工作。:(更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 多谢,很有帮助。 另外大家感觉推荐人的作用到底有百分之多少呢?
      • 10%, I guess.
        • u can use your colleague as your reference.
          one of my former colleague (in china) asked me to be his reference, the company he applied did call me and sent me some questions. I replied based on my best knowledge and he got the job.

          After you decided the person to be your reference, always do a reference check, that is, ask someone you trust to call your reference person, just make sure they won't say something against you.
      • 如果是在同样条件2个人中间选1个的话,Reference的作用会很大。
      • The boss call the reference to confirm his feeling about you, if your reference doesn't , you will be in trouble.
    • 谢谢好小猪,报喜也报忧。