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Thank you so much. Your comments are highly appreciated.

This is partially the information I need. Honestly, I have only done one university browsing in Canada and another in US. Surprisingly, it seems both universities do deliberately avoid advising this kind of information. While I understand directly advising may cause come kind of misunderstanding, avoidance does also cause the confusion to the prospective students like me who has no longer live in student community but fully rely on the websites. Frankly, I double is there any university would frankly say “if you got admission, you got fund”. I know Ph.D. Tuition Fee Award in Canada would cover the tuition fee; but what about the stipends? That is what I really would like to know. Do you mind advising does word “fund” in your paste include stipend? If yes, roughly how much?
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  • 工作学习 / 求学深造 / Help please with PhD application
    I would like to study PhD in computer science field; however, I do not made decision yet which country to go between US and Canada. Do you guys have any idea about following questions?

    1. Whether admission offer from university means automatically exemption from tuition fee as well as the grant of stipend?
    2. Which one should I apply first, admission or scholarship?

    Thanks a lot for help.
    • Different university have different plicy. You should check your question on university's website.
    • According the experience of M.A. application, the deadline of scholarship is much earlier than program admission, but, I do not know the detail for PHD.
      Better to check the exact date of admission and scholarship from school's website.
    • Better to prepare both at the same time, because sometimes they need very similar information, like personal statement, plan of study, even the reference letter from Professors...ect. Good luck.
      • Thanks a lot. I find some unis really want department to sign the form for the fellowship application, which means you would have to apply for the admission first.
    • A lot of univs consider financial aid when you apply for addimition. You may just need to fill out an additional form. CHeck the school you want to apply. You will see.
    • Thanks a lot for your guys.
      The real problem behind my question is I would have to have rely on the fellowship and I really want to secure the position next year. So if I apply for about 100 universities, the application fees are just too much for me. That is why I am trying to narrow the possibility to save the money. So, if I could apply for scholarship/fellowship first, without incurring application fee, that would be best option for me. Do you guys thing it is possible?
      • Not to my knowledge.
        • Do you mean I would have to try one by one by apply for admission first?
      • I just wonder whether it is standard procedure that once applicant being granted admission, the fellowship would follow almost automatically.
        Otherwise it would be waste of resources for both parties. I almost certain no one would pay by themselves for 4 to 5 years’ study. Am I right?
      • 先联系老师,有老师要你读PHD,就肯定有钱(MASTER不一定有).不同学校,不同老师可能钱多少有些差别.在安省,如果你是移民,还可以申请NSERC和OGS
        我所知道的加拿大的情况是,研究生的钱一般有一部分是研究生院来的,学费可能COVER了.还有一部分是系里提供的,可能是做TA,可能是老板课题的钱,百分百后者的话,不用做TA.如果能申请到NSERC,PHD一下子就是三年的,一年大概$20,000多些/年(具体你去NSERC网站查一下).OGS一年一申请,好象是$15000左右.
        美国学校工程类好象多数是导师的课题经费,也就是做RA,纯理科做TA的多些.文科不知道.
        想省申请费,就先联系老师,老师愿意要你,再正式申请.
        • 果然是好建议。可以省很多钱。多谢了
          • If I study PHD in Canada, should I 先联系老师? Thanks
    • In Canada, usually if you got admission, you got fund, this kind of infomation are available on any University's website. Seems you do not even have the basical research ablity, do a PHD will be painful...
      • Thank you so much. Your comments are highly appreciated.
        This is partially the information I need. Honestly, I have only done one university browsing in Canada and another in US. Surprisingly, it seems both universities do deliberately avoid advising this kind of information. While I understand directly advising may cause come kind of misunderstanding, avoidance does also cause the confusion to the prospective students like me who has no longer live in student community but fully rely on the websites. Frankly, I double is there any university would frankly say “if you got admission, you got fund”. I know Ph.D. Tuition Fee Award in Canada would cover the tuition fee; but what about the stipends? That is what I really would like to know. Do you mind advising does word “fund” in your paste include stipend? If yes, roughly how much?